ARE THE PROGRESSIVES ABDICATING AMERICA’S DUTY TO HUMANITY

Our price of admission is the preservation and handing the gift which we received, America, to the next generation.  Americans are in a position to choose whether we want to continue to be an example of what a free people can accomplish or to be an example of what happens to quitters.

The title to the book, The 5000 Year Leap, A Miracle That Changed the World, points out the huge contribution to the world in America’s very short history. We have, during our history, provided an example to the people of the world of what a free people entitled to enjoy the fruits of their risk and labor will accomplish. This has drawn ambitious people from all over the world because we offer opportunities not available in their homeland. We are now tracking the paths of other failing economies which have subsidized rather than incentivized.

THE CHALLENGE: How do we employ more American workers which will generate more collected tax revenue to support the overhead of government while enabling the workers to support their families and themselves independent of government assistance? The regular people from the retired – union/non union – public/private employees – business owners – investors would do much better if businesses were encouraged to expand and employ people. Forget Keynes’ The Means to Prosperity verses Hayek’s The Road to Serfdom and look at the results we have with sustained high unemployment and a huge increase in poverty and government dependence on food stamps, unemployment and mandates that private enterprise provide goods and services such as the Illinois private bank attacked by the DOJ for good lending practices or health benefits added to private providers mandates. The national debt now exceeds GDP which is not terminal if we continue to be able to service the debt by attacking our economic condition on many fronts, one of which is employment which increases collected tax revenue and decreases government expenses for unemployment related items.

America was created by a group of people who looked back into history and studied what had not worked as well as the human deficiencies which erode a government. They created a structure which would protect a just and moral people from tyranny and allow the industrious and risk takers to create and reap the rewards of their efforts. Businesses are sitting on money and constantly evaluating risk/reward to look for ways to make more money. They typically need to employ people to increase their income because they generate returns on their outlays or go out of business because they did not meet the needs of their customers at a price which the customer was willing to pay. “The advantage of a free market is that it allows millions of decision-makers to respond individually to freely determined prices, allocating resources — labor, capital and human ingenuity — in a manor that can’t be mimicked by a central plan, however brilliant the central planner.” — -Friedrich von Hayek

The following interview points out the thinking of a lot of small businesses which are being defensive rather than choosing to expand and employ more people. We need to nurture small business because the Small Business Administration points out:

“1. What is a small business?
The Offce of Advocacy defines a small business as an independent business having fewer than 500 employees. (The definition of “small business” used in government programs and contracting varies by industry; see www.sba.gov/size.)

2. How important are small businesses to the U.S. economy?
Small firms:
• Represent 99.7 percent of all employer firms.
• Employ half of all private sector employees.
• Pay 44 percent of total U.S. private payroll.
• Generated 65 percent of net new jobs over the past 17 years.
• Create more than half of the nonfarm private GDP.
• Hire 43 percent of high tech workers ( scientists, engineers, computer programmers, and others).
• Are 52 percent home-based and 2 percent franchises.
• Made up 97.5 percent of all identified exporters and produced 31 percent of export value in FY 2008.
• Produce 13 times more patents per employee than large patenting firms.”

This interview describes the view a lot of small business people have:

There is a Story of Stuff answer type cartoon which points out the advantage of helping each other do better rather than to take from those who have more than others.

Many small businesses have been driven under because the government gains too much power and the Collective chooses the winners and losers. There is a Collective made up of some big business and big union + some politicians + some very rich people. We see the results of any group having too much power throughout history and we were forewarned to guard against it as well as given the structure to prevent our loss of what makes America Exceptional and an example to the world of what a free people can accomplish.

“Government is not reason, it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.” – George Washington

“Unlimited power is apt to corrupt the minds of those who possess it; and this I know, my lords, that where laws end, tyranny begins” — William Pitt the younger, British Prime Minister (1783-1801, 1804-06) during the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic wars. 1759-1806 who also said,
“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”

IS GLENN BECK BEING PLAYED OR HAS HE FOUND A SMOKING GUN?

The tape linked below is a preview of an attack on the American economy starting with J P Morgan Chase in May of 2011. Has Beck been suckered or is what a lot of us have feared been better documented. One of the principles of propaganda is to deny others the ability to quote the propagandist in a lie and to mix in enough truth that people will lie to themselves. The words of this former SEIU executive fit that if this tape is real. The Pentagon report suggesting that there was a possibility of an economic terrorist attack on the American economy a few years ago might indicate that this is not the first attack on the American economy.

Beck has requested statements from the White House and FBI for his show this evening.

A tape of a meeting in which a May 2011 assault on America’s economy was acquired by Beck and copies were forwarded to Chase, a chosen target, and to the Department of Justice.
Steve Lerner, a high level organizer and former SEIU leader, is one of the speakers on this tape in which a plan to create economic chaos is outlined. One of the participants refers to Cloward – Pivens http://cloward-piven.com/
Quote: Cloward-Piven is a strategy for forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The strategy was first proposed in 1966 by Columbia University political scientists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven as a plan to bankrupt the welfare system and produce radical change. Sometimes known as the “crisis strategy” or the the “flood-the-rolls, bankrupt-the-cities strategy,” the Cloward-Piven approach called for swamping the welfare rolls with new applicants – more than the system could bear. It was hoped that the resulting economic collapse would lead to political turmoil and ultimately socialism.

Some of these people are reaching internationally and there is enough awareness that they have come more out in the open in spite of Lerner’s admonition that the union must not be connected to organizing this assault.

Listen to this recording or watch Glenn Beck TV to see what he actually shows and states. Then listen to those who discuss what he shows and states and it will give a clear understanding of who stands where. Note that I did not state my pre-judgement because each of us is obligated to gather information, vette it and share it with each other. By our vetting the information and sharing the results with each other we can test our analysis and tune up how we make our decisions.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/revealed-the-lefts-economic-terrorism-playbook-the-chase-campaign-for-a-coalition-of-unions-community-groups-lawmakers-and-students-to-take-down-us-capitalism-and-redistribute-wealth-power/comment-page-5/#comment-836082

I have a good comparison of the two sides by them. One is shown to school children and the other is a description of the benefit of a free enterprise America by an entrepenuer:

OR

Some Americans rejected capitalism and relocated to Russia during the Great Depression. The better life which they sought is described in, “the book, The Forsake: An American Tragedy In Stalin’s Russia by Tim Tzouliadis is a stark and tragic account of what happened in the 1930’s to thousands of Americans as a result of not knowing what communism was all about.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2498376/posts

WILL OUR CHILDREN BE EQUIPPED FOR THE WORLD WHICH THEY INHERIT?

Education gives children tools which they can use to help make their way in the world.  It is my understanding that one of the things being promoted and in some cases shown to children per the New York Times 5/10/2009 article in the Education Section linked at

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/11/education/11stuff.html

is The Story of Stuff, which the article states, “So far, six million people have viewed the film at its site, storyofstuff.com, and millions more have seen it on YouTube. More than 7,000 schools, churches and others have ordered a DVD version, and hundreds of teachers have written Ms. Leonard to say they have assigned students to view it on the Web.

It has also won support from independent groups that advise teachers on curriculum choices. Facing the Future, a curriculum developer for schools in all 50 states, is drafting lesson plans based on the video. And Ms. Leonard has a contract with Simon & Schuster to write a book based on the video.” which can be viewed at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLBE5QAYXp8

This gives one side of an argument on capitalism’s use of natural resources and could be very valuable if the teacher were given a guide and were capable of:

1.         showing another viewpoint such as Stick Figure Capitalism at

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEZ4St2BYnk

2.         relating the message in each to current conditions such as unemployment, oil spills, mitigation methods such as reforestation, desalination of ocean water by Long Beach, SERF = the Long Beach disposal facility which generates power from rubbish

3.         an analysis of the information, discussion including analyzing propaganda as well as the principles promoted,  in each and a debate

My fear is that this type of what appears to me to be indoctrination including the showing of An Inconvenient Truth without a discussion and counter argument is creating the American demise.  An example of why I fear that we are intentionally putting America on her economic knees is the oil drilling moratorium placed upon American oil workers while America funds a portion of Mexican drilling in the area from which Americans are banned.  America is financially backing Soros-Petrobras Brazilian oil exploration while we do not develop our resources.  This denies American workers jobs during a 10% unemployment time and creates an energy dependent America.  Why are we not employing American workers to boost our economy and develop our energy independence which promotes a better standard of living and a more secure nation?

Our children will inherit the world which we create and their education will either make them vulnerable or enable them to deal with the issues that they inherit from US.

Americans have a weakness in negotiating per Roger Dawson, an Englishman who teaches negotiating.  It is the “What do you think is fair?” gambit and that is both a strength and weakness.  We are a very powerful nation and have never set out to colonize the world.  Japan and Germany rose to strong nations after we defeated them. Iraq has a budget surplus as we go into incredible National Debt.  The world is a much better place because America is in it.  There are a lot of foreign graveyards for American’s who died in the wars defending against tyranny.

It is child abuse for US to feel good as we support a cause detrimental to the world we bequeath our children.  Thomas Sowell has a book out, Intellectuals and Society which he discusses the lack of accountability of intellectuals who wreak havoc with their theories and are not held to account for the damage.  He points out that if a building falls down that architect is out of work, but intellectuals are not.  An interview showing some of the points affecting those who determine our course can be seen at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERj3QeGw9Ok     

a prime example of this is the continued high unemployment in light of the history of Keynes verses Hayek – “I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot!”  –  Henry Morgenthau Jr.—pal, lunch companion and loyal secretary of the Treasury to President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

WHO CARES ABOUT AMERICAN WORKERS?

How much do we care about our fellow Americans who are out of work?  We are all affected by this issue because employment produces collected tax revenue which supports public employees and pays the necessary overhead of government.  It affects every one of US from new born to retired right now and in our future.  I care enough ot watch both sides and objectively analyze the solutions offered?  We have that opportunity with the

10-2-10 RALLY

I will be challenging what I believe as a Conservative who looks at this much manpower and money and wonders why they do not take all of that manpower and the money those groups control and form businesses to compete against the “Rich People” businesses one at a time which, if they are right would snowball.  I am a firm believer in Hayek over Keynes and so far believe that history bears out that conclusion as I see Cuba and Russia laying off public employees.  I have no idea what the message will be at this rally, but there is a huge rally by the Left which is supported by groups including the Unions and Communist Party USA described by One Nation as, “This movement includes human and civil rights organizations, unions and trade associations, nonprofit organizations, youth and student groups, religious and other faith groups, educational, peace, environmental, and ethnic associations, and any other groups and individuals who are committed to pulling our country back together now.

These are some of the more than 400 organizations, representing tens of thousands of individuals who have endorsed the One Nation Working Together campaign. Join this historic moment:”

http://www.onenationworkingtogether.org/partners

We have been warned by several sources from world news to the United Nations which has issued two reports on the employment problem worldwide and the resulting unrest which is predicted.  Do we want to choose a way which avoids unrest in America?  There is an article with links to the reports at

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/298359

It starts, “The UN’s International Labor Organization issued a report warning of social unrest in the wake of ongoing unemployment worldwide.”

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/298359#ixzz11CvwLNKv

TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE

American workers are still unemployed in incredibly large numbers for a long period of time inflicting:

1.  decreased ability to make mortgage payments and keep their home, much less cover their cost of living

2.  a lack of access to employer connected health insurance – I favor portable non-employer connected health insurance, but employer connected is immediately available

3.  diminishing skills and attitude

4.  lower collected tax revenue driving up national debt and jeopardizing the entitlements currently in effect

5.  and certain groups are singled out

Delphi workers are shut out as UAW workers are given a Health Care Tax exemption for Cadillac Health Insurance and their pension plans are protected  with tax dollars

http://michellemalkin.com/2010/09/22/special-report-the-delphi-disaster-an-economic-horror-story-obama-wont-tell/

Andrew Breitbart questioned an entire group of protestors about their level of knowledge and ended up with a discussion with two protestors at a meeting where he was scheduled to speak.  He found two rational people in the group, but this points out the need to be in rational debate rather than emotional, bumper stickers types of labels.  Formulating a strategy, monitoring the results and correcting course deviations is basic management and our economic strategy results without addressing things like Fannie – Freddie appear to need some tune ups.

http://www.valuesvoternews.com/2010/09/dude-andrew-breitbart-takes-out.html

What would you do is a fair question and my answer is more involved, but based on the ideas in the following three videos and my faith in the American individual who, unfettered by overwhelming government controls such as the Health Reform requirement for business to 1099 anyone paid over $500.00 which diverts time and money from production to subservience.  Seems to me that that requirement increases the need for psychiatric care of American Producers to deal with the frustration inflicted by a clueless or sadistic beauracracy.

This man employs people who have health insurance and makes a very simple suggestion.  He is also expanding his foreign operation because China is more predictable than the USA at this time.  That is the reason that business people who want to expand and make more money, but cannot forecast with any certainty in a time when Congress fails to create a budget and make a decision on the Bush tax cuts are not expanding and employing people..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdrxfFFeMbc

Woodrow Wilson’s Progressive policies created the potential for a depression and we instead ended up with the Roaring 20s, a time of prosperity and invention under a Conservative administration.  Coolidge was far from a brilliant orator, but his economic philosophy put America in economic overdrive.  Compare this to testimony before a Congressional committee  => “I say after eight years of this Administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started. … And an enormous debt to boot!”  –  Henry Morgenthau Jr.—pal, lunch companion and loyal secretary of the Treasury to President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5puwTrLRhmw

Woodrow Wilson had Edward L. Bernays, a propaganda master admired by Gerbil during WWII.  Look at the following video and ask why we have a climate of diminished American business activity with an anti – business attitude by groups which have the talent and money to compete, but choose to be parasitic instead.  This is shown to children – are they being taught critical thinking or being programmed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLBE5QAYXp8

Lynn Tilton, CEO of Patriarch Partners DOES PRESERVE JOBS and lays a plan for the government

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkwSloggR-g&feature=fvsr

Ask yourself why we would have a moratorium on Gulf oil exploration by Americans as we fund Mexico to do what Aemrican workers are prohibited from doing.  We have also backed George Soros/Petrobras for Brazilian oil exploration while American workers are kept down.  WHY?

Check out 10-2-10 and then compare it to 8-28 CSPANN at

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/295231-1

which while not political is an indicator of what a lot of US would like to see, honoring the military who protect US and looking for values and character.

We have American workers unable to get employment and there is reason.  The two very different philosophies create TWO VERY DIFFERENT RESULTS.  Think about American workers, not party as you vote on November 2, 2010.  Dr. Thomas Sowell has stated that he thinks that this is the most important election in American history.

THOUGHTS FOR MEMORIAL DAY

The Culture of America is at stake – protect America from becoming ONLY a nation!

THOUGHTS FOR MEMORIAL DAY

THE THREE QUOTES BY THOMAS PAINE DESCRIBE SOMETHING WHICH WE HAVE BECAUSE BRAVE MEN AND WOMAN HAVE PAID A PERSONAL PRICE TO DEFEND IT AND THE THREAT TO IT IF WE DO NOT MAINTAIN A REAL VIEW OF THE GIFT WHICH IS NOT INDESTRUCTIBLE.

I have included the FOUR PARAGRAPH Gettysburg Address later in this post because it was given to honor those who paid the price and in the fourth paragraph TO CHARGE those who enjoy that which was preserved. These words are very appropriate for US to review and ponder today.

When I contemplate the natural dignity of man; when I feel (for Nature has not been kind enough to me to blunt my feelings) for the honor and happiness of its character, I become irritated at the attempt to govern mankind by force and fraud, as if they were all knaves and fools, and can scarcely avoid disgust at those who are thus imposed upon.—Thomas Paine

“If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.” — Tom Paine

“What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.” — Thomas Paine.

THANKS TO THE SACRIFICES OF THESE PEOPLE – OUR COUNTRY HAS BEEN SAFE FROM THE OUTSIDE Posted by littleguyusa on Friday, September 11, 2009 9:00:00 PM

This is a “THANK YOU!!” to our service people for putting their lives on hold and on the line without regard to a discussion of the wars in which they are involved. These people are the reason that we are still Americans without another country’s rule and I just wanted to acknowledge them for giving me the opportunity to enjoy my life in America.

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Leading the fight is U S Marine Gunnery Sgt Michael Burghardt, known as ‘Iron Mike’ or just ‘Gunny’. He is on his third tour in Iraq . He had become a legend in the bomb disposal world after winning the Bronze Star for disabling 64 IEDs and destroying 1,548 pieces of ordnance during his second tour. Then, on September 19, he got blown up. He had arrived at a chaotic scene after a bomb had killed four US Marines. He chose not to wear the bulky bomb protection suit. ‘You can’t react to any sniper fire and you get tunnel-vision,’ he explains. So, protected by just a helmet and standard-issue flak jacket, he began what bomb disposal officers term ‘the longest walk’, stepping gingerly into a 5 foot deep and 8 foot wide crater. The earth shifted slightly and he saw a Senao base station with a wire leading from it. He cut the wire and used his 7 inch knife to probe the ground. ‘I found a piece of red detonating cord between my legs,’ he says. ‘That’s when I knew I was screwed.’ Realizing he had been sucked into a trap, Sgt Burghardt, 35, yelled at everyone to stay back. At that moment, an insurgent, probably watching through binoculars, pressed a button on his mobile phone to detonate the secondary device below the sergeant’s feet ‘A chill went up the back of my neck and then the bomb exploded,’ he recalls. ‘As I was in the air I remember thinking, ‘I don’t believe they got me…’ I was just ticked off they were able to do it. Then I was lying on the road, not able to feel anything from the waist down.’ His fellow Marines cut off his trousers to see how badly he was hurt. None could believe his legs were still there ‘My dad’s a Vietnam vet who’s paralyzed from the waist down,’ says Sgt Burghardt. ‘I was lying there thinking I didn’t want to be in a wheelchair next to my dad and for him to see me like that. They started to cut away my pants and I felt a rea l sharp pain and blood trickling down. Then I wiggled my toes and I thought, ‘Good, I’m in business.’ As a stretcher was brought over, adrenaline and anger kicked in. ‘I decided to walk to the helicopter. I wasn’t going to let my team-mates see me being carried away on a stretcher.’ He stood and gave the insurgents who had blown him up a one-fingered salute. ‘I flipped them one.. It was like, ‘OK, I lost that round but I’ll be back next week.’ Copies of a photograph depicting his defiance, taken by Jeff Bundy for the Omaha World-Herald, adorn the walls of homes across America and that of Col John Gronski, the brigade commander in Ramadi, who has hailed the image as an exemplar of the warrior spirit. Sgt Burghardt’s injuries – burns and wounds to his legs and buttocks – kept him off duty for nearly a month and could have earned him a ticket home. But, like his father – who was awarded a Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts for being wounded in action in Vietnam – he stayed in Ramadi to engage in the battle against insurgents who are forever coming up with more ingenious ways of killing Americans.

Thank you for enduring the heat, the hard work and the sacrifices. I appreciate more than I will ever be able to show. Ross

THE GETTYSBURG ADDRESS COPIED FROM:

http://americancivilwar.com/north/lincoln.html

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth, upon this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived, and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met here on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of it as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But in a larger sense we can not dedicate – we can not consecrate – we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled, here, have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember, what we say here, but can never forget what they did here.

It is for us, the living, rather to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they have, thus far, so nobly carried on. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us – that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they here gave the last full measure of devotion – that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain; that this nation shall have a new birth of freedom; and that this government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

MARCUS LUTTRELL WROTE LONE SURVIVOR
Listen to this interview and note Marcus Luttrel’s description of his vote to let the goat herders go rather than to execute them and insure the team’s safety. THE LIARS WHO HIDE THE TRUTH ABOUT OUR SERVICE PEOPLE AND PROMOTE ANYTHING WHICH THEY CAN FIND TO PROPAGANDIZE THE GULLIBLE work to the destruction of what we have because our military protects it. Perspective is incredibly important.
“What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.” — Thamas Paine
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.” — Samuel Adams

Memorial Day Was Born Out Of The Civil War In 1868 and the historian interviewed suggests that we take a moment to read the Gettysburg Address on Memorial Day.

TWO VIDEOS SHOWING THE EMOTIONS OF THOSE WHO DEFEND AMERICA AND THE PEOPLE WHO LOVE THEM
In the Arms of an Angel – American Soldiers Tribute by Mushafugga at

with Music: Sarah McLachlan – Angel Download This Song: iTunes AmazonMP3
AND
A tribute to all of our troops, and for my good friend SharpLugia!

with Music: Mark Schultz – Letters from War

LET US STAY CONSCIOUS AND DEDICATED TO OUR DUTY TO PRESERVE THAT WHICH WE HAVE RECEIVED!

I WANT A NATIONALLY TELEVISED DEBATE – TOO MUCH DISPARITY – LET US HEAR THE TRUTH

There is no excuse for the Arizona situation to go in the direction that it is going. Government should protect US and ease our life, not make it crazy and stir up hate and discontent. If the administration cared about the actual issues they would clearly state the issues and deal with them. There is something else going on because this administration has a lot of bright people and this is a management 101 level problem.

I want to see a nationally televised debate between President Barack Obama and Governor Jan Brewer on the issues that are of concern to the administration. I would be happy with a person with authority to speak for either of them with the understanding that they are speaking absolutely for that person’s position.
The way this issue has been handled by the Whitehouse is astounding to me. I would expect a leader of a country to have contacted the Governor and discussed the issues of concern. From my perspective, I, instead, see a FOCUS ON FAILURE:

1. public statements disparaging the Arizona legislature passed and Governor Brewer signed and warning of what MIGHT HAPPEN = sounds like predictions of what did not happen at Tea Party Rallys

2. a threat by the Attorney General to look into challenging Arizona protecting itself with the statute

3. failing to acknowledge Arizona’s response to fears of racial profiling with HR2162 which deals with racial profiling and allows the use of a drivers license if there is a legal contact. This makes Arizona law superior to the federal law and California state statute.

4. inviting a leader of a foreign country to speak against Arizona and agreeing with him which indicates an alliance of this administration with an invading nation against a state in what was the UNITED States of America.

5. failing to recognize that the inciting rhetoric and actions adversely affects the wellfare of the Arizona population, 30% of which is of Hispanic heritage. That is discrimination against American Hispanics by their ?fellow? Americans.

The only reasons which I can imagine for keeping Governor Brewer from discussing her situation with President Obama or someone he delegates confirm my fears of this administration’s intentions for America.

Governor Brewer and her legislators heard the people voicing their fears of racial profiling (30% of Arizona population is of Hispanic descent) and dealt with it by passing House Bill 2162 prohibiting racial profiling and adding the drivers license as acceptable proof of citizenship. They want to protect their borders and citizens without abusing their citizens. Rather than focus on failure, they dealt with the issue by adding a clarification that is clear and easy to understand. I will post that section here and you may read the entire bill at

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/hb2162c.htm

B. For any lawful contact stop, detention or arrest made by a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of this state or a law enforcement official or a law enforcement agency of a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state in the enforcement of any other law or ordinance of a county, city or town or this state where reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who and is unlawfully present in the United States, a reasonable attempt shall be made, when practicable, to determine the immigration status of the person, except if the determination may hinder or obstruct an investigation. Any person who is arrested shall have the person’s immigration status determined before the person is released. The person’s immigration status shall be verified with the federal government pursuant to 8 United States code section 1373(c). A law enforcement official or agency of this state or a county, city, town or other political subdivision of this state may not solely consider race, color or national origin in implementing the requirements of this subsection except to the extent permitted by the United States or Arizona Constitution. A person is presumed to not be an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States if the person provides to the law enforcement officer or agency any of the following:

1. A valid Arizona driver license.

2. A valid Arizona nonoperating identification license.

3. A valid tribal enrollment card or other form of tribal identification.

4. If the entity requires proof of legal presence in the United States before issuance, any valid United States federal, state or local government issued identification.

C. If an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States is convicted of a violation of state or local law, on discharge from imprisonment or on the assessment of any monetary obligation that is imposed, the United States immigration and customs enforcement or the United States customs and border protection shall be immediately notified.

D. Notwithstanding any other law, a law enforcement agency may securely transport an alien who the agency has received verification is unlawfully present in the united states and who is in the agency’s custody to a federal facility in this state or to any other point of transfer into federal custody that is outside the jurisdiction of the law enforcement agency. A law enforcement agency shall obtain judicial authorization before securely transporting an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States to a point of transfer that is outside of this state.

The entire bill is available at: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

There has been a lot of inciting rhetoric over the potential problems of this bill and there has been a video of the effect of racial profiling that this bill causes.
The misinformation counts on people looking at, but not reading the article because:
1. It is the federal government, ICE, demanding a birth certificate
2. The wife states that this has nothing to do with racial profiling and Arizona law
3. The bill does not go into effect until July 28, 2010
4. HB2162 prohibits racial profiling and allows a drivers license to be used as proof of citizenship

This article may be found at http://www.azfamily.com/news/91769419.html

and the last part points out the misrepresentation in using this for a demonstration of Arizona law possibilities with HB 2162. Jackie explains, “I have his social security card as well and mine. He’s legit. It’s the first time it’s ever happened.”

Both were born in the United States and say they are now both infuriated that keeping important documents safely at home is no longer an option.

Jackie says, “It doesn’t feel like it’s a good way of life, to live with fear, even though we are okay, we are legal…still have to carry documents around.”

A representative at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) returned 3TV’s calls after researching the incident and she said this was standard operating procedure.

The agents needed to verify Abdon was in the country legally and it is not uncommon to ask for someone’s birth certificate.
She also said this has nothing to do with the proposed bill or racial profiling.

Their problem is with ICE, not with Arizona which offers a solution to a problem that has existed in Federal Law with no remedy for awhile. Arizona implemented their solution in response to people’s concerns. That, to my way of thinking, is an example of how our employees in government should handle our issues.

Let us judge not on what might be, but rather on what is and what happens. There are activists who will try very hard to create problems and this is a hardship on Arizona law enforcement. I would like to see an additional part of the statute that makes staging an incident a felony with serious penalties. We need to take America forward and that is best done by keeping America safe and strong. We cannot do the good that we do if we do not sustain our ability to do it.

LET US SEE A DEBATE SO THAT WE MAY KNOW WHAT IS REAL!

“Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.” — Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan

“The opinion of 10000 men is of no value if none of them know anything about the subject.” Marcus Aurelius, Roman Emperor from 121-180 AD

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